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Date: 2008-06-24 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lignamorren.livejournal.com
You may find this and this informative.

Date: 2008-06-24 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikku-gen.livejournal.com
Should have remembered... Thanks! =)

Date: 2008-06-24 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mummpizz.livejournal.com
I like the folding doors. And btw. I like your avatar, too, pikku_gen.

Date: 2008-06-24 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meritahut.livejournal.com
I utterly did not know that huge collars were an impetus for using forks. Fashion strikes again.

Now, to figure out what unusual factors led to huge collars, and then what unexpected results the usage or manufacture of forks led to, until we uncover a chain of events leading from, oh, Hannibal's elephants to ENIAC.

Date: 2008-06-24 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daftnewt.livejournal.com
"...a chain of events leading from, oh, Hannibal's elephants to ENIAC."

You've watched James Burke's "Connections"!

...or if you haven't, you should!

Date: 2008-06-24 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meritahut.livejournal.com
Oh my yes, I am a total raving fangirl for James Burke's "Connections." There needs to be much, much more of that. I wanted to grow up and do historical reenactments with brainy snarky narrators, too :D

Date: 2008-06-24 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ndgmtlcd.livejournal.com
Collars started out at a small size and grew because they were considered as an indicator of wealth and social status. Laws were passed in the 16th century, giving size limits according to social rank. The newly rich bourgeois couldn't help themselves and wore bigger and bigger collars. At times the authorities stationed soldiers with shears, and the order to cut down to size any collar offender.

Date: 2008-06-24 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meritahut.livejournal.com
Oh. I was thinking:

1. Wave of stricter Protestantism encourages wider collars as "kissing-chastity belts"

2. Importation of ferrets from New World leads to new European breed with tendency to leap for the jugular

3. Attempt made by wealthy women to convince King of England they have already been beheaded, so he won't try to marry them

4. Anti-whiplash devices for horse-and-carriage hotrodders.

Something like that.

Date: 2008-06-24 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ndgmtlcd.livejournal.com
I don't know about collars for number 1, but in France there's a wide and fairly rigid women's hat/coif/hood called Quichenotte. The name is supposed to come from "kiss not", which the local women shouted to the English soldiers stationed in parts of France during the hundred years war.

http://maurelili.chez-alice.fr/coiffes.html

Date: 2008-06-24 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meritahut.livejournal.com
I love a good origin story :)

Women will put some remarkable things on their heads.

I love hats.

Date: 2008-06-24 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikku-gen.livejournal.com
Thank you, so do I! Which one, BTW? This?

Date: 2008-06-25 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mummpizz.livejournal.com
Xes, this one – I'm a great Miyazake fan, you know.

Date: 2008-06-25 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikku-gen.livejournal.com
I didn't, but now I do. I too am a fan, and the Kodama are my fav creatures!

Date: 2008-06-25 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mummpizz.livejournal.com
… mine are the dust puppies (susuwatari).

 

"There's nothing I enjoy as much as a jolly catastrophe"
—J. G. Ballard

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